I stopped by my local last night in hopes of finding more people to talk about the current dating scene.
First of all, married men who are out with their buddies can be a little prickly when you mention:
A) Dr. Phil
B) Their dating years
For the record, I asked them a few questions and then one of them, not the other two (who seemed interested), told me flat out that he didn’t want to talk about it. He prefaced it with, “I don’t mean to be rude,” but you know when people say that, they are going to be rude. Either I missed an invisible signal from this guy or he has an anger management problem, as there was no “nah, not interested” words up to that point. Methinks he has bad memories or perhaps thinks he’s better than the young single men out there struggling to find a woman.
Okay fine fella, I will leave you to go back to ogling at and flirting with the also-married barmaid. You sir, are a jerk, and I feel sorry for your wife. But that single negative response was the only bump in my research road: most people are friendly and more than willing to talk to me. Yay for humanity!
I spoke to a man who was a little older than I am, he is in his late 40’s. He is single, and has been divorced for a long time. He was philosophical about dating, and said if it happens, it happens. “It” being finding the right woman. He was fulfilled in his life with work and his grown children. He did agree with my prior findings that Match.com is not that great, but you can meet some decent people on those sites if you do it often enough. Then he said he doesn’t bother anymore, as he really doesn’t care to go out hunting for women. He wasn’t upset or bitter about it either. When he left, he shook my hand and wished me good luck in my research.
Next I talked to a couple who had only been dating a few months. They were obviously getting along well, but both had horror stories to tell from the dating battle zone. Crazy exes, lying men, you name it, but they were still out there trying. They were leaving for a trip the next day, and I hope they have fun.
A lone young man sat at the bar, nursing a Bud. I asked the barmaid if she would ask him if I could talk to him. He said to come on over. I discovered that he was like the older man, not really looking. He didn’t have any problems talking to women and his biggest desire was to pay off his student loans and go on a quest, much like Thoreau. He was incredulous at the thought of being trained as a pick-up artist.
Lastly, I talked to a man who was reading a book. I didn’t even ask him about dating, because he was a bass player in a band, and I am a former bass player. Musicians, unite! Turns out he was none other than Kris Day from Jerks of Grass. There’s a video of them at that site too, make sure you watch! Jerks of Grass is playing at the Bramhall Pub tonight, go give ‘em a looksee!
Kris is also in a group called King Memphis, click on “Gigs” for their schedule. That dude gets around! And he is totally cool, too.
I have decided that my local pub is not exactly the best place to conduct my research. There are young guys who go there, but I doubt they want to talk to me, an older married woman, face-to-face at a bar when they’re out with their buddies, about dating. Also, I am too freaking old to be drinking pink martinis. Way. Too. Old. I took a taxi home, by the way, no drinking and driving here.
I’m looking for honest answers from young men about the dating scene. How hard is it to go up to a woman for you? Would you consider reading a book like Magic Bullets? Would you think about taking one of their workshops? Do you know anyone who’s tried it and has gotten good results?
So far I’ve heard from guys who are in the “pick-up artist” or dating coaching communities, if you don’t want to call it “PUA”. Most of them are glad they learned these skills (haven’t heard from too many guys who are sorry they are in the scene).
What are the young women like today? Approachable or not? And what do young women make of all this?